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FIVE QUESTIONS 02/28/19

Five Questions with Percy Rodríguez, Bev. Director |Laurent Tourondel Hospitality

Percy Rodríguez (@percyjrodriguez) is the Beverage Director for Chef Laurent Tourondel‘s restaurants (L’Amico, The Vine) within the Hotel Eventi in NYC, (part of the Kimpton Hotels and Restaurant Group), along with Sag Pizza in Sag Harbor.

Percy is one of the most professional and likable Beverage Directors I have ever worked with. He also never seems to be in a rush, which is incredible considering what he is running in the day-to-day.

There are only a handful of Beverage Directors in NYC overseeing multiple concepts like Percy – check out the Bonus question on Spirits buying.


Five Questions

Which producer or area do you believe in that most people in the industry disagree with you on?

Domestic wines that aren’t from either coast. Y’all, Missouri makes PET-NATS NOW!! Y’ALL.

You run the beverage program for multiple concepts within a Hotel – What are the challenges, and what have you found that works to get past those challenges?

My biggest challenges are time and quality staff. I never have enough of either, and as far as I can tell, that is industry standard. We are busy enough at this property that there is never a moment where there isn’t something to do. And when I delegate to my leaders, I need to trust that their work will meet my standards, as I don’t have the time to double check everyone’s work (whether it be syrup production, staff education, stocking, cleaning schedules, etc). I’m now in my fourth year here, and, not to take away from the staff I’ve had work for me up until now, but I am only now getting to a place where I am happy with almost all facets of my team. It’s simply that difficult to find hard-working, dedicated staff. AND THEN, when you have them, you have to retain them. I believe a connection to staff, however small, is imperative to minimizing turnover. I always engage my beverage staff (polishers, barbacks, receivers, bartenders, etc) in small talk, their last shifts, any issues I can help with. It keeps everyone loose and they know I have their back. With my core team, I’m more invested. You have to push their education, you have to push and nurture their drive, you have to ride the waves of personal lives and relationships because at the end of the day, it all affects the bottom line (you can’t have a depressed sommelier on the floor).

With regards to time, it really is a lesson in discipline. Of COURSE, I’d love to go to all of the tastings and lunches and dinners and trips and taste all the wine and spirits and beers that are being hawked. But I also have invoices to allocate, inventory, BEO meetings, PNL meetings, hiring and training, and and AND. If you want any type of longevity in this game, you need to pace yourself and focus on the immediate tasks at hand. When things are consistently good at work, then you can go have an occasional, semi-indulgent lunch with a winemaker. You do it too much though, and people start to ask where you are.

If you could ask one question of another wine director, what would it be?

What are you doing to drive sales while increasing the visibility of your program(s)?

Which trend or trends do you wish would go away?

As a buyer: Rosé season. I like Rosé. I drink Rosé. I hate that every February I have to f**king decide what I’m going to pour in four months.
As a creative: wack garnishes in cocktails. I get that everything has to stand out from a social media perspective and I GET that people order with their eyes as the rum punch with pink sparklers and dehydrated micro production black mission figs gets run through the dining room or bar, but please stop. Please.

What do you want people to know about your program?

I want people to know that we will make time for them. What do I mean? I had this post-middle-aged couple come in the other day. L’Amico was packed and already on a wait at 6pm (any time Billy Joel plays MSG, this is the case). The woman mentioned they were going to the concert and were looking for a quick bite and a drink, nothing fancy, and didn’t look overly hopeful that we would be able to accommodate them. We didn’t have anything in L’Amico but I mentioned I had a few open tables in our other restaurant The Vine, which is through the hotel lobby. I walked them over, made small talk with them, introduced them to the host and got them settled, letting them know they were in good hands. An hour later, I felt a tap on my shoulder, and this couple was incredibly gracious, said they looked forward to coming back, and couldn’t have been happier. Had I just told them how to get to the other resto I doubt their experience would have changed much, but seeing someone take the extra 30 seconds to make their experience personal has a tremendous amount of weight with customers.

“ I like Rosé. I drink Rosé. I hate that every February I have to f**king decide what I’m going to pour in four months.

DOUBLE-BONUS

What advice do you have for to a wine director stepping into buying spirits, as well?

Always ask if there’s a bigger drop, deeper deal. Ask to be connected directly to the brand’s ambassador/mgr for activations, events, happy hours, etc. Don’t say yes to everything a liquor distributor tries to sell you on. And every now and then, when salespeople reach out for a favor (to hit a sales goal or get a trip, whatever it is), help them out if you’re able. Get that weird bottle of rum they need to move to get a bonus or something. You never know when you’ll be in the shits and you need cases of something ASAP. Playing the game a little bit once in a while goes a long way.

Are there any regions or wineries in Italy that are underrated? Which are overrated?

Amarone is overrated, and Fiano from Campania is underrated, by a freaking mile. I don’t care if it’s from Avellino or Paestum or Cilento or Irpinia or where ever: it’s almost always good if not great, ranging from clean and simple to nuanced and strikingly delicious.


Note*: All answers are edited for spelling and posted without cuts.

THE REORDER 02/22/19

The Closeout Recipe

Want the perfect Closeout recipe so you can avoid the pitfalls?

I can smell the closeout dish from a mile away. Putting a producer in the position to succeed in this crazy market takes thoughtful work, and it is obvious when that doesn’t happen.

Most of the time it has little to do with the actual producer or wine in question…


A Closeout Recipe

The pricing is wack compared to the other prices in the market. (i.e. pricing formulas, not sales formulas)

The wine is launched with a tech sheet and a taste.

The producer has a dusty and shriveled story that is yawn-inducing or as memorable as a bland morning cereal.

The reference point for the appellation is a vivid one and the producer you represent has no relation or anything that differentiates it from the reference point.

It fills a “category.”

The wine is launched with overtly flowery prose.

There is zero plan to market the wine if the first wave doesn’t work.

The wine is “all the rage in Paris.”

When this becomes the answer to everything: Put this in your bag.

“ Nowadays, I can spot a future closeout from a mile away, and most of the time it has little to do with the actual wine.

[insert Hot shit importer here] USED TO represent them.

The internal attitude of the importer/distributor is you HAVE to sell this to have that.

The wine is hidden in plain sight within the inventory.

The wine is “allocated” out before anyone knows the value of the producer or has tasted a drop.

The internal attitude of the importer is “this will never work.” (often manifested in inventory quantities).

THE REORDER 02/15/19

Building the New Wine Director – Looking Ahead

The New Wine Director will be built. It is possible.

If I could build a terminator Wine Director, the Wine Director of the future – the below is where I would start.


The Real Knowledge

I am sorry to say, but wine knowledge today means much less than it once did. I know, I know, knowledge is power, but let me explain…

Pretty much everyone I work with (sell to) is more knowledgeable about wine than their colleagues were last year. There are multiple reasons for this, but primarily: information is immediately available to anyone who is interested. Anything can be found and recited back in less than a minute on google.

Here is the real wine knowledge: knowing the market.  Knowing what is available and how it stacks up. This is where it is at, and in the more than eleven years I have been doing this, the best of the best have this type of knowledge in common. They know what is out there, and by extension, they choose their partners wisely.

The New Wine Director will be market fluent.

Service

This one I am particularly sensitive about. Decant this, siphon that, pour that person first.  Who isn’t all in on these skills? You have to be able to handle wine.  But, become great at talking to people? Be a great tableside conversationalist with wine and other stuff, too? This seems to be on the downturn.

The new Wine Director will be a GREAT listener and salesperson. A tableside service assassin who can teach others to do the same.

Leadership

There are some that do this well and it is notable. But let me ask this: who is taking the time to create GREAT wine directors today. Who makes those around them advance forward towards their ultimate goals. I know this exists in rare occurrences, but not to the level we need it to in the top market in the world. If we are building the next generation, we need leaders that can motivate selflessly.

The New Wine Director will be an expert leader.

“ The new Wine Director will be a GREAT listener and salesperson. A tableside assassin.

Business Time

The New Wine Director will have to be business fluent. The level of businessperson that can hold the attention of a restaurateur or an investor and convince them of a new direction that can be validated by the day-to-day. A Futurist. A collaborator. An Excel Spreadsheet Master.

The New Wine Director is a strong Businessperson.

Travel

Travel is currently handed out like free pamphlets on the street because every wine area and consortium is actively trying to build fans, but most have little idea which direction will bring the most lasting effect. Every appellation wants to have a Chianti Classico camp with a superstar sommelier ambassador, but it just ain’t going to happen. Want to go to Georgia, even though you would never buy Georgian wine, or even make a dent as an ambassador? Here is a ticket. Have fun. How many followers do you have again? The best Wine Directors I know travel with ideas for their future list, not to see sights.

The New Wine Director will travel with a purpose.

Mission

The best Wine Directors have an area or charity they want to get behind. They will have a mission that informs their overall direction that isn’t just business building, but community building.

The New Wine Director will be a community builder.

THE REORDER 02/07/19

To Begin Again

There will come a time where you will have to begin again. To forget what you thought you knew about wine and sales and the market.


The Traps

It is likely that many of the below have come up for you:

Those wines don’t sell.

They would never like that.

He/She is not a good Wine Buyer.

I have nothing they want.

I am going to ignore that producer in my portfolio because the wines aren’t up to “my standard.”

They don’t know what they are doing.

Everything is out of stock.

They will never email me back.

Why don’t buyers taste anymore?

 

“ To get out of your own way it is vital to begin again. You must change your perspective.

I know this change isn’t easy, but I am certain it is vital.

I am getting clarity daily by asking two simple questions: What is this for? Am I just doing the same thing again because it is obvious?

Anselme Selosse leveled up when he asked himself why he was doing what he was doing. You can, too.

Begin again.